Dagmar Schwermer
No Trace of a
Salon
The Jewish
Women's Union after 1945
[German]
When the Jewish
Womens Union (JFB) was re-established at the beginning of the 1950s after being
banned by the Nazis in 1938, the organisers main aim was mitigating suffering
in the wake of the Shoah. But the women also gained new political strength
through their activities. Three of the groups co-founders, Ruth Galinski, Inge
Markus and Lilli Marx, spoke with Dagmar Schwermer about the revival of the JFB.
Dagmar Schwermer:
What was the role of the JFB after the war?
Ruth Galinski:
We had to draw to us those who were coming out of the concentration camps,
because all of them were in a state of despair. They were broken. Thats why we
set up a womens group, to give these people something to hold onto and a bit of
warmth. That was the most important thing we did in the first years.
What was the
contact like among the women themselves? Was there a specific culture of
conversation?
Inge Markus:
Well, there wasnt a trace of the old bourgeois salons. People got to know each
other. Each told of their particular fate. Traces of hope returned for some. We
were really a long way from a salon. We didnt want to be like Rahel Varnhagen.
No. That just doesnt exist anymore. At the time, the Jewish communities had
only about five to six thousand members. A womens group with 500 people in it
was considered enormous. Unfortunately, it didnt remain that way, namely due to
the ageing process, of all things.
Ruth Galinski:
Dont forget ... in those days mainly the women who were single were the ones
who survived.
How did you
exchange information among yourselves? Ms. Marx, at that time you were already
editing a newspaper solely for the women in the different communities.
Lilli Marx:
That was a newsletter for the JFB in Germany. It was called The Woman in
the Community. We believed that title encompassed everyone. Our goal was to
promote social work, provide information about gaining citizenship and to awaken
womens interest in politics. We also wanted to kindle interest in and promote
working for Israel. We wanted to make it particularly clear to the women how
important it was to remember not only social work, but also other things. We
were really lucky we were able to occasionally publish the paper, which could be
as long as 16 pages, using money from the budget of the General Jewish Weekly (Allgemeine
Jüdische Wochenzeitung). Our paper was inserted in the Allgemeine and
widely circulated as a result.
From the
beginning, youve emphasised that the women in your community were primarily
concerned with social work. The original JFB, before the war and the Shoah,
represented completely modern thought. Did feminist ideas later play a role in
your group again?
Ruth Galinski:
There was no talk of feminism then. We had to survive and regain our strength.
Besides, as far as I recall, we were very confident women. We never had the
feeling a struggle was necessary. Religion, of course, was another thing
entirely, but everyone has their own opinion on that. One is orthodox, the other
liberal.
What made you so
strong?
Ruth Galinski:
What made me strong to begin with, was that I survived at all and I could begin
again. I got married to a strong man. That made me strong as well.
Ms. Galinski and
Ms. Marx, your work is linked to the work of your well-known husbands. One,
Heinz Galinski, was the long-time president of the Berlin community and the
chairman of the central council. The other, Karl Marx, was a publicist and the
publisher of the General Jewish Weekly. What were your roles when you stood
alongside these men?
Ruth Galinski:
Take my husband, for example. He had the feeling he was stronger when I was with
him. He always demanded I come along. Ill give you a small example. When we
came home in the evening, we always sat down and talked over a glass of wine.
Mutual sharing played a major role.
Lilli Marx:
I can only underscore that. Its true I was one of the few Jewish women who had
a career. There were only two in Düsseldorf. Besides me, a friend of mine was a
paediatrician who had returned from Israel. We had already worked together in
exile in England. I learned a great deal from my husband and I was allowed to
learn. There was never the need to fight ... quite the contrary. He had an
extraordinary understanding for working women and found it was important enough
that it was done.
The work of the
JFB was not limited to Germany. You soon began to take part again in meetings of
the International Council of Jewish Women. What were your experiences there?
Inge Markus:
These international meetings were really interesting. Seen in a purely personal
light, we were really good together, even when most were looking at us with the
thought in the back of their minds: ... Oh, God, they come from Germany. How
could they live there again? Or, How could they ever go back there? Like me: I
had lived in exile in England and I went back. They really had a hard time
understanding that. But we tried to explain the dilemma to them with a funny
little rhyme:
We are two boys
from Germany
They call us Max
and Moritz
Wherever we come
on the scene
Were always
having Zorres
But we dont
think we need an excuse
to live in
Germany
Because,
remember, we are Jews
Wherever we may
be.
Of course, we were
wildly interested in the work at that time. It was so diverse. Our women
contributed to it and they got to hear things from the large, free world beyond
the war zone. And besides, the womens group was a springboard for me. At that
time I was relatively young. Id just had my third child and Heinz Galinski came
to me and said, Inge, Id like it if you stood as a representative of the
Jewish community. I said, How am I supposed to do that? Ive got a baby. He
replied, Oh, well manage all that. Well, why? Because we had a whole lot of
women supporting us.
What are the
tasks facing womens organisations today?
Lilli Marx:
I believe the integration work done in our generation fell on fertile ground. We
simply felt obliged to make ourselves available to the community. The main thing
all organisations suffer from today is that contemporary young women who have
superb career training dont make themselves available ... out of their own
conviction. It takes a great deal of persuading to recruit young women.
Ruth Galinski:
Well, in my opinion, the womens organisations have survived as such. Today
there are womens organisations in the professions and in academe, or whatever
you like, but the regular, old-fashioned womens unions are no longer in.
Bet Debora is
campaigning for equal treatment of women in Jewish ritual. What did you think of
the religious services celebrated by the women at the conference?
Lilli Marx:
I was really impressed both yesterday and today. It was the first time in about
54 years Id been to a liberal or a reform service. It was a wonderful ceremony.
The simultaneous readings of Hebrew, German and English scripture impressed me
as well. I could read along, which is something I cant do in Düsseldorf.
Dagmar Schwermer
is a journalist in Munich. Ruth Galinski and Inge Markus both live in Berlin,
Lilli Marx lives in Düsseldorf.
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